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Offline billynomates

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US gov spending $54 million on FLIR infrared cameras
« on: April 12, 2012, 06:19:46 PM »
I read an article on-line way back about the US navy and military spending "allot" of money on these FLIR infrared cameras. It made me think of the footage from the Mexican air force when they filmed 9 disc shape craft as you all know. Could it be possible that the defense forces of the US be using these cameras for the sole purpose of observing these "cloaked" craft around or near naval ships and military bases? We have seen allot of footage on-line were the camera operator was unable to view a craft until the infrared was turned on. After the advantages of these cameras have shown, that these craft are flying in our atmosphere invisible to the human eye do any of you think the US bought these cameras as a means of detection from their naval ships, military bases and nuclear ICBM storage facilities.
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Re: US gov spending $54 million on FLIR infrared cameras
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 01:04:46 AM »
Hi , Billynomates, Just my opinion…
This is just the tip of the iceberg. 54 million USD represents a very small snapshot of the overall picture when considering alone that the USA’s recent military budget is 700 billion USD per year, this excludes operations where secret classifications and above are applied, add perhaps another 200 billion USD per year, the very few only know the true figure. Then there is China, UK, France, USSR etc with also eye watering amounts of money spent on military and associated research.
If we stand back and look at the overall picture over the last few decades we can see that not only has our advanced technology detected what seems to be intelligently controlled structured craft of all shapes and sizes from unknown origins performing manoeuvres and demonstrating a technology far beyond ours within our biosphere but also terrestrial space based technologies detecting similar objects.
For example in the 50’s USA already had the MIDAS satellite system located in a specific orbit, not long after the DSP (Defense Support Program) was initiated which can on occasions detect, track, and record non-terrestrial technology entering and  leaving our Sol system, so called “Fast-Walkers” as well as many other tasks in relation to high level eves-dropping on Earth.
So, two questions, do these non-terrestrial persons allow their technology to be detected on certain occasions but only on their terms and for reasons only known to them and secondly if we are to take as factual certain individuals, particularly from various military and secret services that have come forward to state that indeed we have technology not of our making, i.e., it came from elsewhere through opportunistic events that certain military and secret services could apply this non-terrestrial technology to programs such as the DSP (Defense Support Program) satellite system?     
Yes, there has been documents, still and moving images, landing trace investigations, eyewitness testimony, radar and various reports etc etc released by certain agencies, governments and so forth which demonstrates a tantalising aspect to the possibility of non-terrestrial persons and their technology operating with impunity not only within Earths biosphere but also within our Sol system .   
Therefore various military, secret services and others are not indifferent to these visitors and this has been the case for quite some time indeed.

Disclosure project: http://www.disclosureproject.org/
Defense Support Program satellites: http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=96
Military Budgets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Hope this helps.
Mike
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Re: US gov spending $54 million on FLIR infrared cameras
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 07:52:25 AM »
The United States Department of Defense black budget was estimated at $32 billion in 2008 but was increased to an estimated $50 billion in 2009, this is seperare to the standard military finacing for each year, so it gives an idea of what could possible used for 2010, 2011 & 2012.
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Re: US gov spending $54 million on FLIR infrared cameras
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 11:00:54 AM »
Have you seen the price of FLIR's??

I doubt they would get much of them for $54m! :P I would say they would be for just run of the mill camp defence and the odd 'Explosive Ordnance Disposal' team. FLIR is just a brand name, there would be many different 'Thermal Imager' suppliers.

Looking for/monitoring ET craft would be done by satellite and 'our own' craft.

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Re: US gov spending $54 million on FLIR infrared cameras
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 11:23:57 PM »
Quote from: GrahamR on April 13, 2012, 11:00:54 AM
Looking for/monitoring ET craft would be done by satellite and 'our own' craft.
And any other tech. thats been developed thats not public knowledge!
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Re: US gov spending $54 million on FLIR infrared cameras
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2012, 06:30:41 PM »
Quote from: AstroMike on April 13, 2012, 01:04:46 AM
Hi , Billynomates, Just my opinion…
This is just the tip of the iceberg. 54 million USD represents a very small snapshot of the overall picture when considering alone that the USA’s recent military budget is 700 billion USD per year, this excludes operations where secret classifications and above are applied, add perhaps another 200 billion USD per year, the very few only know the true figure. Then there is China, UK, France, USSR etc with also eye watering amounts of money spent on military and associated research.
If we stand back and look at the overall picture over the last few decades we can see that not only has our advanced technology detected what seems to be intelligently controlled structured craft of all shapes and sizes from unknown origins performing manoeuvres and demonstrating a technology far beyond ours within our biosphere but also terrestrial space based technologies detecting similar objects.
For example in the 50’s USA already had the MIDAS satellite system located in a specific orbit, not long after the DSP (Defense Support Program) was initiated which can on occasions detect, track, and record non-terrestrial technology entering and  leaving our Sol system, so called “Fast-Walkers” as well as many other tasks in relation to high level eves-dropping on Earth.
So, two questions, do these non-terrestrial persons allow their technology to be detected on certain occasions but only on their terms and for reasons only known to them and secondly if we are to take as factual certain individuals, particularly from various military and secret services that have come forward to state that indeed we have technology not of our making, i.e., it came from elsewhere through opportunistic events that certain military and secret services could apply this non-terrestrial technology to programs such as the DSP (Defense Support Program) satellite system?     
Yes, there has been documents, still and moving images, landing trace investigations, eyewitness testimony, radar and various reports etc etc released by certain agencies, governments and so forth which demonstrates a tantalising aspect to the possibility of non-terrestrial persons and their technology operating with impunity not only within Earths biosphere but also within our Sol system .   
Therefore various military, secret services and others are not indifferent to these visitors and this has been the case for quite some time indeed.

Disclosure project: http://www.disclosureproject.org/
Defense Support Program satellites: http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=96
Military Budgets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Hope this helps.
Mike
mike thanks for the reply. i found it unbelievable that in the 50's they could detect craft in our solar system, that is just beyond belief. I can only imagine what they can do now...

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Re: US gov spending $54 million on FLIR infrared cameras
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2012, 06:33:09 PM »
Quote from: GrahamR on April 13, 2012, 11:00:54 AM
Have you seen the price of FLIR's??

I doubt they would get much of them for $54m! :P I would say they would be for just run of the mill camp defence and the odd 'Explosive Ordnance Disposal' team. FLIR is just a brand name, there would be many different 'Thermal Imager' suppliers.

Looking for/monitoring ET craft would be done by satellite and 'our own' craft.

Graham
Hi Graham, mate i was trying for days to find out the price of a FLIR with no luck, can you please enlighten me lad..

cheers
John
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Re: US gov spending $54 million on FLIR infrared cameras
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2012, 06:40:26 PM »
This is just something you can buy in Ireland to the general public:

'http://www.caulfieldindustrial.com/flir-t600-series-thermal-imaging-cameras/p-e10058pd.html'

Can you imagine how much it would cost for a full mil-spec camp security system?? :P
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Re: US gov spending $54 million on FLIR infrared cameras
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2012, 06:50:51 PM »
holy crap, thats unreal. I was trying to find the price of the one below just to see how many they could buy for that 54 million, but your right mate, i don't think you'd get very many...

http://gs.flir.com/surveillance-products/star-safire-hd/380-hd

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Re: US gov spending $54 million on FLIR infrared cameras
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2012, 07:05:46 PM »
"The Naval Air Systems Command, Lakehurst, NJ awarded a firm fixed price contract on a non-competitive basis to FLIR Systems, Inc for the acquisition of up to (25) Star SAFIRE HD Imaging Systems, up to (40) Star SAFIRE 380-HD Imaging Systems, and up to (3) Field Service Representatives per year in support of the Persistent Ground Surveillance System."

'https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=42aa296a720eccc3fc135d1e7f4de873&_cview=0'
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